Comments on: Rising Rightroots? Lets look at the data http://www.shoutingloudly.com/2009/09/29/rising-rightroots-lets-look-at-the-data/ building a healthy information ecosystem Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:41:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David Karpf http://www.shoutingloudly.com/2009/09/29/rising-rightroots-lets-look-at-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-46833 David Karpf Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:25:38 +0000 http://www.shoutingloudly.com/?p=924#comment-46833 1. Laura: Yep, I largely agree. I think we can take your point a step further, actually. If you look at the historical uptake of technological innovations into political campaigning, the outparty clearly tends to lead the way. Conservatives saw themselves as counter to a liberal media because, with Republicans holding the Presidency and both houses of Congress, that's the major thing they had to oppose. Progressives, meanwhile, were critical of the party in power and the Democratic elites who kept losing elections. That provides much more fertile ground for organizing. (That is, I think, what Ruffini is driving at as well. He's right about that element, I just think he's declaring conservative triumph far too early.) 2. Our Paul: thanks for the compliment. I've done some writing in the past that looks at why the disparity exists... only reason I didn't include it in the blog post is because it had already gotten pretty long. The paper, titled "All the Dogs that Didn't Bark," is available at my homepage http://davidkarpf.com/conference-papers-and-published-works/ it's still a work-in-progress, but feel free to take a look. I'd be happy to discuss further via email if you'd like. 1. Laura: Yep, I largely agree. I think we can take your point a step further, actually. If you look at the historical uptake of technological innovations into political campaigning, the outparty clearly tends to lead the way. Conservatives saw themselves as counter to a liberal media because, with Republicans holding the Presidency and both houses of Congress, that’s the major thing they had to oppose. Progressives, meanwhile, were critical of the party in power and the Democratic elites who kept losing elections. That provides much more fertile ground for organizing. (That is, I think, what Ruffini is driving at as well. He’s right about that element, I just think he’s declaring conservative triumph far too early.)

2. Our Paul: thanks for the compliment. I’ve done some writing in the past that looks at why the disparity exists… only reason I didn’t include it in the blog post is because it had already gotten pretty long. The paper, titled “All the Dogs that Didn’t Bark,” is available at my homepage http://davidkarpf.com/conference-papers-and-published-works/ it’s still a work-in-progress, but feel free to take a look. I’d be happy to discuss further via email if you’d like.

]]> By: laura http://www.shoutingloudly.com/2009/09/29/rising-rightroots-lets-look-at-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-46832 laura Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:14:34 +0000 http://www.shoutingloudly.com/?p=924#comment-46832 David, Good post! Really interesting and great numbers. But why are conservative behind in using blogs and other technology for organizing? Because the conservatives and liberals had different missions when the blogosphere was young. The conservatives saw themselves as a counter to a liberal media. They used the internet to yell back at the reporters and find errors in their work. The liberals saw themselves as activists. They used the Internet to get people elected and counter the elites in DC with mixed results. Given that these differing missions statements, it's no wonder that the conservatives are behind, especially since it seems that the early adopters created some very permanent institutions. For all its fluidity, the Internet is surprisingly slow to change. David, Good post! Really interesting and great numbers. But why are conservative behind in using blogs and other technology for organizing? Because the conservatives and liberals had different missions when the blogosphere was young. The conservatives saw themselves as a counter to a liberal media. They used the internet to yell back at the reporters and find errors in their work. The liberals saw themselves as activists. They used the Internet to get people elected and counter the elites in DC with mixed results. Given that these differing missions statements, it’s no wonder that the conservatives are behind, especially since it seems that the early adopters created some very permanent institutions. For all its fluidity, the Internet is surprisingly slow to change.

]]> By: Our Paul http://www.shoutingloudly.com/2009/09/29/rising-rightroots-lets-look-at-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-46818 Our Paul Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:54:20 +0000 http://www.shoutingloudly.com/?p=924#comment-46818 Elegant is a word never lightly given to describe a scientific experiment, a piece of writing, or an analysis, such as found here. I hesitated only because you fail to speculate as to why the disparity exists. My view, in brief, can be traced to:(1)lack of depth and intellectual rigor in most posts. (2) Echo chamber effect, it is difficult to find divergent thought (excluding Eunomia, OTB, and a few others). (3) lack of civility in the comment sections. I will have to spend a bit of time at your sight, in the meantime, if not elegant, at least very nice! Elegant is a word never lightly given to describe a scientific experiment, a piece of writing, or an analysis, such as found here. I hesitated only because you fail to speculate as to why the disparity exists. My view, in brief, can be traced to:(1)lack of depth and intellectual rigor in most posts. (2) Echo chamber effect, it is difficult to find divergent thought (excluding Eunomia, OTB, and a few others). (3) lack of civility in the comment sections.

I will have to spend a bit of time at your sight, in the meantime, if not elegant, at least very nice!

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